Ron Paul is the Only Candidate Who Will Cut Spending

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Ron Paul is the only candidate serious about reducing the deficit and the national debt.

This fact was recently underscored by a study released by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a bipartisan think tank.

Newt Gingrich’s tax and budget plans would add $7 trillion to the debt over the remainder of the decade and Rick Santorum would do about the same.

Mitt Romney’s tax-cut and spending proposals would keep the deficit and debt on keel.

Ron Paul would reduce spending and slowly eliminate the debt by zeroing out a host of federal agencies. He would work to bring back honest money and sane economic policies by getting rid of the Federal Reserve – a prospect opposed by both sides of the establishment political party now ruling the roost in Washington.

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  • John Hand

    If Ron Paul is all that great, how’s come he acts like Hillary Clinton? Allow me to explain what a ‘Hillary’ is. When Hillary was campaigning against Obama, she would be asked a question. If she did not know or care to answer the question, she would giggle and CHANGE THE SUBJECT, going off on some other question or subject. Hillary is an expert at this, and I believe she managed to fool a lot of people. Now, let’s take Ron Paul and the last debate in Arizona. Ron Paul was asked point blank, ‘As president, how would you handle our border with Mexico?’ (I am using my wording, the question might have been phrased differently). Instead of answering the question about our southern border, Paul immediately started rambling on about the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan. What? He was asked again, ‘The question was, what would you do about our border with Mexico?’ Again, HE FAILED TO ANSWER. At this point, the majority of the people watching that debate could see that Ron Paul has some warped version of seeing the world. But probably not the children in the audience who cheer no matter what silly remark Paul seems to make.

    • 57girl

      You obviously missed the point Dr. Paul was trying to make. HIS point was that rather than defending the borders of other Nations (Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, etc. and so on), our troops would be better, utilized here to patrol our own borders. Better yet, it is his intention to cut off the freebies doled out to illegal aliens entering our Nation. If we quit handing out free housing, food stamps, and medical care to those that are breaking our laws by entering our nation illegally, our problem wouldn’t be so out of hand to begin with. Go to Dr. Paul’s website and listen to him. The issues are posted there, and he speaks about them extensively. The debates are too limited to allow for adequate answers, no matter who the Candidate in question is.

      • John Hand

        The point is: Paul FAILED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION DURING THE DEBATE. Point not made, damage done.

        • stillmoral

          He does that all the time. He goes off on one of his demented rambles. I heard this lowlife in one debate and had him figured out for the scum he is.

          • Dagny

            Well “Millicent,” aka “Still Moral” and others, I see you’re still posting your demented anti- Ron Paul screeds under various screen names.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            I dont use a screen name and never will. Paul is a fruitcake always has been. As for demented Paul would have us crawl into a hole then draw the cover over us until one day some comes for us to. Read Matt 5:14 you actually might learn something

          • MartinRidens

            I've been wondering what happened to Millicent. They do sound extraordinarily alike, now that you mention it.

          • KH

            Thanks for playing the neocon dimwit game. Next contestant…

        • John Hand

          Oh, sorry to take up additional space. I forgot to add that Paul’s changing of the subject and not answering the question seems to occur at every debate, not just the one in Arizona. Guess I should have made myself more clear. Then again, that’s what I accused Paul of doing, isn’t it? Anyhow, Paul is doing serious damage to the Republican campaign, and in the last debate, it very definitely looked like Paul was aiding Romney against Santorum. When Paul called Rick Santorum a fake, I would have loved to see Rick Santorum LAND A HAYMAKER. Or, Santorum could have taken the high road and said something like a phrase a Democrat once used against a Republican opponent way back when. ‘I know a Republican when I see one, and Ron Paul, YOU’RE NO REPUBLICAN!’ (The original phrase was about JFK, and someone saying he was no JFK).

          • Ann Wilson Kingsley

            @John Hand: If you do not understand Ron Paul calling Santorum a fake, maybe this will help explain it. Santorum bills himself as "The" Evangelical Christian Social Conservative, but to most Christians lying is not exactly part of the Christian repertoire. Santorum lied about Ron Paul in a debate when he called Ron Paul a liar for exposing the claim that Santorum was named among the most corrupt Senators in Washington in 2005-2006 by CREW http://www.citizensforethics.org/pages/category-r…. Now, Santorum is again lying about Ron Paul by claiming a Romney-Paul alliance. Ron Paul and Romney are on opposite ends of the political spectrum. Romney is the most Progressive Republican in the race, and Ron Paul is the most Conservative. Obviously, both Romney and Ron Paul are vying for the votes in the middle – the middle being Santorum and Gingrich voters. Since Ron Paul and Romney are at opposite ends of the political spectrum, they stand to gain nothing by attacking each other. Romney voters will not vote for Paul, unless Paul wins the Republican Nomination, and Ron Paul voters will not vote for another Republican candidate besides Ron Paul. Since Santorum lies so easily about Ron Paul, voters need to accept that his promises are completely hollow. Santorum will say anything to get elected, which is why proven “honest” Ron Paul does not seem to like him. I am opposed to your misrepresentation and dishonesty with regard to Ron Paul.

            Ron Paul’s philosophy is Libertarianism, the political philosophy of Our Founding Fathers, and Ron Paul is a strict Constitutionalist. Ron Paul voters are Fiscal and Economic Conservatives who believe in a small Federal Government and State’s Rights. Ron Paul is also an Evangelical Christian.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            Not quite. During the period of our Constitution and Bill of Rights there were several organizations of free thinkers that could be called "libertarian" . Paul is one of the French Revolution's type. If you look at the founding fathers they gave us morals and ethics to go by that are from the Holy Bible. The French Revolution had none of this and neither does Paul. Paul during the debate hemmed and hawed because he knew what he wanted to say is that he wants open borders he has said it before. He also stated that he got earmarks through putting them in bills sure to pass then voted against them. By his own admissions Paul is not a conservative or a Republican. He has ranted and raved over 30 years and it shows in his mind going going gone. I have been a Republican all my life and I would never vote for that little troll who is except for his fiscal policy to the left of Obama

          • just sayin’

            If Ron Paul is honest, then he is incompetent as a manager in my opinion. Here is the fact. Please don’t blather on about NWO, Neo Cons and the like. Just make your determination which one he is and then temper your future comments using common sense rather than Mantra! His views that were written about in HIS newsletters for years with HIS name on them are scary. He claims that he did not know what they were writing for years. To me, that sounds like irresponsible management AT MINIMUM. How can someone who cannot even supervise his OWN newsletters manage international affairs and the US government. So IF he is honest, he is irresponsible and incompetent AT THE LEAST. My belief is that he DID know what was in his newsletters for YEARS and did supervise what went in there. THAT would make him patently dishonest by claiming that he did not know. What would the average person think if they were not a PaulBot or a cult member? My guess would be the latter but the former is possible. Which do you believe, since you claim he is the ONLY honest one? Is he irresponsible and incompetent or dishonest?

          • MartinRidens

            I just have to ask you John. What in the world does this have to do with the FACT that Ron Paul's proposals would reduce our debt and eventually get us out of the hole we are in and the rest of the candidates proposals increase our debt with no end in sight? Who is it that likes changing subjects?

            And, BTW, Ron Paul said he would take our resources being wasted on protecting the borders of other countries and use those resources to protect our borders. Sounds like an answer to me.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            That is about all his postion is worth is fiscal policy. The rest would have us give up helping others. If we were not involved in other countries we would have little or no leverage. Look at North Korea with out us they would be starving more than they are. Food is a very good tool to use it destroyed the government twice in Russian once in 1917 and because of Agent Orange they fell again in the late 80's. He would open the Mexican border he hemmed and hawed around it but in the end said we could not miss the oppurtunity for Mexican labor
            and his foreign policy is simply nuts and the founding fathers would be the first to whack him up side the head asking what in the blazes are you doing.

          • MartinRidens

            He would not open our borders. He has said repeatedly we need to get control of our borders before any reasonable proposals for illiegal immigrants can even be considered. You are simply lying when you run around crying that Ron Paul will open our borders.

            As for North Korea, they wouldn't have nuclear weapons if it wasn't for us, that's one thing. I think Ron Paul is very correct when he says foreign aid is taking money away from poor people in this country and giving it to rich people in poor countries.

            I don't know where you get your take on the Constitution and our Founding Fathers. If you think Ron Paul has never read the Constitution, I'd have to agree it's certainly not the same one you have read.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            For North Korea yes they would have had nukes we did not give them the technology. We give to much to poor people in this country and it is badly mismanaged and many have been on it for literally generations and Paul would halt all of it from the Federal Government after all its not in the Constitution you can not have it both ways. I get my take on the Constitution and other documents of that time by reading all of them and then look at the people who wrote it and where they were going with it. And yes Paul would open the borders again you must not have watched the debates. He also hemmed and hawed when asked a question by Newt in one of them some one who supposed knows the Constitution would have answered with out hesitation. His allowance of the states to have drugs and prositution just to name a two things would be contrary to the general welfare of this nation. In foreign policy he would withdraw us back to our borders and cancel our treaties with other nations again he has stated this and has written it in his books. I have no reason to lie it gains me nothing however you Paulbots when brought to terms on exactly what he is irrationally defend him. His reading of the Constitution is with out the morals and ethics of the original founders and he is except for fiscal policy to the left of Obama both are true statements of Libertarians in general. Paul is more in the line of the French Revolution you might want to read up on that. As for my education I hold several advance degree's including History and Political Science.

          • MartinRidens

            Here is a link to one of his books on-line. This site is having trouble and hasn't posted either of my recent replies.
            http://books.google.com/books?id=-138BbPZOggC&amp…

            I would recommend you skip the introduction because, well, you seem to jump to conclusions but just reading the first page may give you a different perception.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            I have already read his books. I have also done comparison on different types of Republics at the time ours was created. Paul closely matches not the American but, the French which was and was not a spin off of ours. Much more chaos in the French Version. And I have done over 30 years of anaylizing political methodologies including libertarian I dont jump to conclusions but, I can also make rational ones unlike Paul bots

          • MartinRidens

            Seems they don't want to post my replies again

          • MartinRidens

            The French revolution ended up in a secularist, state controlled tyranny with no respect for individual rights or property. It can be argued the main reason for this was the destruction of Christian principles for many years leading up to the revolt. A people without a spiritual basis of righteousness is ill equipped to handle freedom and liberty. With great freedom comes great responsibility and if that responsibility is not based on a love of God and our fellow man then anarchy results, which was what happened in the French revolution. The contrast with the American revolution is the spirituality and Christian principles of the American citizens. To claim Ron Paul’s positions are more in line with the French revolution is nothing more than propaganda designed to strike fear in people because of the horrors which resulted in that revolt.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            Hardly propaganda for I have nothing to gain or to lose simply the truth through observation

          • MartinRidens

            I'd say we, as a country, are more positioned towards the French prior to their revolution today but to claim Ron Paul and his policies lean toward the statist, anarchic, revolution that occurred in France is wrong. We have been losing our Christian basis in this country for a long time and I would argue one primary reason is the growth of big government. The way we begin to correct this problem is by reducing government. It is impossible to legislate morality and anyone who truly cares for their fellow citizens realizes this.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            Now who is copying the media. The left wing media would like you to think that people are no longer religious hardly a fact when over 80% in a Gallup poll have identified with Christainity. Since the Holy Bible is the basis for the Constitution you have morality and ethics in our form of government unlike the French version.

          • MartinRidens

            Ron Paul and his ideas of freedom, personal responsibility, and individual liberty were the basis of the American revolution and at least claimed in the French revolution Would trying to go back to those principles work today, since our society more closely resembles pre-revolution France than pre-revolution America? Maybe, maybe not. But if we don't try, and we continue to rely on big government, I can guarantee we will only see a further reduction in any Christian principles governing our country and eventual totalitarianism. Republicans will not save this country, only we can, And we can only do this when we are left to be the righteous, caring, responsible citizens we are capable of being without the intrusive, tyrannical nanny state telling us what to do. Ron Paul is the only one even talking about this approach. It worked before and if we trust ourselves and our fellow citizens it can work again.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            Both Obama and Paul have the same problem in over doing it . Obama would clamp down on our necks while Paul would give us our hearts desire. Again both paths are null same coin different faces. Or if you will the arguements made by John Stuart Mills.

          • MartinRidens

            Guess they didn't liike it all in one piece so I broke it up. By the way, using the term Paul-bot is not worthy of someone who claims to be educated and willing to have rational discussions.

            I'm sure we can get to the border issue and "legalizing" prostitution and drugs another time, but know there is a different take on those issues also.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            I am willing to have rational discussions however I refuse to be attacked something that seems to be a Paulbots specialty. Look at Paul and his writings all of them you will see the French Revolution in them. The American Founding Fathers walked a very thin line from two few rules such as in the Articles of Confederation and the admitted to many that we have now which comes mainly from regulations that are derived from the laws then perverted. We still need the laws that Pauls form of Libertarianism would eliminate. The morals of not having drugs or prositution in our society are desireable and the states must have some rules or standards or the American Revolution will look like the French one. And except for threats I find the idea that they would not publish to equally bad. In order to change peoples minds a TWO way conversation is needed.

        • jody

          Point is: you shouldn’t be voting because you can’t even assess the answer to a question especially since I see that you read the huffington post. So a flaming, marxist, liberal can’t understand a response from Ron Paul? I’m shocked!

      • just sayin’

        paulbot cult member cannot accept criticism that is TRUE of their candidate. just spout the mantra

        • just sayin’

          Well Anne Kingsley! You slipped and exposed what I KNOW is how PaulBots think. You said no Romney voter would want to vote for Paul and no Paul voter would vote for any other republican candidate. Nuff said. PaulBot Cult Member. The Mantra slipped a little too far! lmao

      • Punchy

        57girl, don’t let those poor blind sheep get to you too much. The truth is people are realizing that Ron Paul makes more sense than any of the other candidates.

    • John Handjob

      Your an idiot, only thing Ron Paul has bad going for him is his age.

      • John Hand

        Oh lookie. Some immature probably college age kid created a name to make fun of my name and then made a derogatory remark, also calling me a name. Exactly what I would expect of the likes of you. And you can’t even spell. The correct spelling is ‘you’re,’ not…your.

        • just sayin’

          You forgot the comma after “Oh”. You also forgot the two commas in the next sentence to separate the modifiers. Then you dangled a phrase after a comma in the same sentence. You probably meant “from” instead of “of” in the next sentence, but who’s fussy here? You should not have started the next sentence with “And”. In the final sentence, you used “…” when you should have used quotation marks again. I would change your name from “handjob” to “ignorant, self-loving blowhard”.

          • Sunshine49

            Good comeback. We’re you an English major?

          • Sunshine49

            LOL. I did it too. It’s supposed to be were and not we’re.

    • john j

      R.P. is as much like Billary as an amoeba is to a millipede ! Anyone who doesn’t think that Ron Paul is the real deal for what we HAVE to have in a leader , has just been GUZZLING the loony left’s kool aid … As far as what our choices are as of now , he’s by far , the only one …

      • Jonathan Gartner

        You think Paul is conservative??? You are the one drinking the kool aid

        • http://r3voluti0n.com Jason

          If you deny that Ron Paul is a conservative, you are delusional. He is the ONLY conservative running.

          He follows/votes with the constitution 100% of the time.
          He predicted the collapse of the dollar in 2002 while nobody else saw it coming.
          He believes in sound currency and no borrowing or printing of money.
          He always votes for a balanced budget.
          He votes against dipping into social security.
          He voted against the TARP bailouts.
          He fought to get the Federal Reserve audited and won.
          He votes against unconstitutional spending.

          Everything Ron Paul says and does is conservative. If you say otherwise, you are just lying. Like I said, Ron Paul is the ONLY conservative running for POTUS. Not because I said it, but because these are the facts.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            Voting and following to differnt things as Paul has done. He will put in pork in his bills then votes against them. Many people including Newt saw the problems with the dollar coming. As for the TARP bailouts he voted for the affordable housing bill long ago the root cause of the TARP 7.7 trillion bailout. He was not the only person or the first to want a audit of the FED. He votes against so called un-Constitutional spending but, still gets his earmarks. You might want to work on your facts.

        • http://r3voluti0n.com Jason

          Ron Paul wants to cut 1 trillion in the first year and have a balanced budget by his third year in office. He even has a DETAILED plan that shows how he can get it done. Nobody else has anything like this.

          He has also agreed to take a presidential salary of less than 40,000 per year. Everyone else gets a base salary of $400,000 per year.

          • Punchy

            Right on Jason, there are several regulars on this sight that are obviously afraid of real liberty and need the security of a moderate leader. I’m sorry they are blind and ignorant but there are several of us here also that are not going away who believe that freedom is once again attainable and that we are responsible for our own actions.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            Have you ever served I did not think so. We do not need a libertarian who is close to Obama on many policies and has voted with Barney Frank. Freedom would disapear in the chaos caused by Paul and his bots. As for blind and ignorant try the French Revolution you would find Paul very comfortable there with his reading of the Constitution no moral no ethics just reading a document with no understanding. You Paul bots truly need a education in Poly Sci. with Paul you get one in Science Fiction

          • Jonathan Gartner

            That would be truly interesting in that in 23+ years and 600+ bills he has not done anything. And lets skip the hypocrisy of never having a bill he could vote for more Paulbot rationalisation.

        • Joby

          You are either getting paid to troll this page or you have no life. Why are you so afraid of freedom? Theres nothing extreme about taking your oath seriously and following the constitution. I feel sorry for you.

    • True Patriot

      Yes, Hillary is not to be trusted either. There are credible rumors of Obama dumping Bite Me and putting Hillary in as vice president. Just think, if Obama wins reelection and they impeach him Hillary will be president. She's as bad as Obama. She and Obama attended a class together to learn how to destroy a country from within. They learned this from Saul Alinsky. Guess what country they are destroying from within? They are working to steal the 2012 elections. If anyone wants to help to stop this contact: Thomas Fitton, President of Jucicial Watch, 425 Third Street SW, Suite 800, Washington, DC 20024; Tel: (202) 646-5172; FAX: (202) 646-5199 email: [email protected] http://www.JudicialWatch.org See website: http://www.haasstrep68.com

    • Sue

      Hillary and Bill are out and out criminals and shouldn’t be compared to anyone. On border fence:

      Claim: Ron Paul wants open borders and amnesty for all illegal aliens

      FICTION

      Because Ron Paul identifies ideologically with libertarianism, many believe that he is for open borders and amnesty. This claim is false. He is on record as opposing any attempts at amnesty. He has previously voted for legislation that would block amnesty and erect a border fence. While he does not feel a border fence would be necessary if the incentives for illegal immigration (welfare, health care, amnesty, etc) were eliminated, he voted for the bill strictly to be on record against amnesty.

      From Liberty Defined:

      “The libertarians who argue for completely open borders for the free flow of goods and people fail to realize that a truly libertarian society would not necessarily be that open. The land and property would be privately owned and controlled by the owners, who would have the right to prevent newcomers from entering without their permission. There would be no government havens or welfare benefits and new immigrants would come only after a sponsor’s permission.”
      http://paulitifact.com/2011/06/10/claim-ron-paul-wants-open-borders-and-amnesty-for-all-illegal-aliens/
      There’s a video on that link. Listen to the candidate “in his own words”, then make your decision.

      • Jonathan Gartner

        It is quite obvious you did not see the debate nor have you read any of Pauls books. His revolution was not that of Washington but of the French.

      • http://r3voluti0n.com Jason

        Ron Paul wants armed troops on the U.S. borders. He want to stop guarding the borders between Iraq and Afghanistan while our borders are wide open here at home. A fence is not practical. It is also expensive and unmanageable. It would still need to be guarded to be effective. Ron Paul's plan would actually work.

        He is the ONLY logical person running for president.

        • Jonathan Gartner

          There are actually several different ways to have the border. One would rely on proven Technology more than boots on the ground. Having boots on the ground rather than the fence was actually Rick Perry's idea first. I disagree and would want a real functional border with a wall, mines, and live weapons fire. Leave the bodies in the no-man zone it will quickly become known trying to cross illegally is not worth your life. And for Mexico complaining tell them they can go to the nether regions and point out their southern border.

  • tod

    Dr.Ron Paul 2012 is the ONLY Chance this country has to turn things around !!!

    • Elaine

      Newt would turn the country around; and more than that he is being subjected to being pushed aside because of his stance of the Muslims in OUR Country.

      Ron Paul would pee pee in his panties if he was confronted by a touch talking Muslim.

      • John Hand

        You have that right about Newt. Did you notice in the last (AZ) debate how CNN was allowing Paul to have lots of air time, way more than in the past debates because he was helping Romney attack Santorum? CNN deliberately left Newt sitting over in the corner because of these attacks against Santorum, and CNN knew that if they gave Newt more air time, his intellect would once again bring him to the forefront. The liberal media, and Obama, FEAR NEWT GINGRICH. Newt is the ‘Washington insider’ (Experience) with the ‘baggage’ (Lessons learned, knowing how to apply them) and Newt can not only take on Obama and win, but keep winning once he occupies the White House.

        • Ann Wilson Kingsley

          Did it ever occur to you that Ron Paul was given more air time because he ran a very close second in Maine? In fact, now there seems to be some speculation that he won the race. Ron Paul was also right about attacking Iran. Our government and Israel are pulling back.

          • just sayin’

            ay yai yai! Paul’s policy on Iran is the worst part of his platform. What made you bring that up? Don’t you even have the ability to see the most vulnerable position of your candidate? Where do you see either side “pulling back”? No evidence in anything I have seen. No one is looking for a war to solve it except that is Paul’s Mantra! Why don’t you let them store their nukes in your back yard. In fatc, why don’t you move to Iran! They will love to have you and Ron Paul as mouthpieces to tell the world why they are not dangerous! There is probably some Ahmadinejad peace prize or something they can give him as fast as Obama got his!

          • Jonathan Gartner

            You are right about the prize. They give you a dinner and then take off your head. Thank you very much but you are still an unbeliever

          • Jonathan Gartner

            And now you and Paul know what Israel is going to do ??? I dont think so they do as they feel not as Paul feels. Iran is about 2-4 months in getting a weapon and Israel will not back off. However as thick as Paul is they could probably use him to bust a bunker. And for Maine and New Hampshire take a look at who's there very very liberal Republicans or moderate Demoncrats neither a true representative of the voting Public.

      • KH

        You obviously didn’t learn when the neocon establishment pushed Bob Dole and John McCain on you did you? You voted for them in lockstep with the other neocon retards I’m sure.

    • just sayin’

      the ONLY one! PaulBot Mantra repeated ad nauseum.

  • DrBillLemoine

    Ron Paul is probably the least likely guy to get elected this year. He represents about 3% of voters in the country. Knowing he would cut spending, specifically whole departments of federal government, means he will NEVER get the votes of employees of those departments or any Democratic voter ever. That's odds of 17:1 against; I'll take that bet from anyone.

    • Elaine

      Ron Paul people blatantly speak for the ENTIRE Military are behind him by mentioning 300 of them showed up at a rally. They were proud.
      What they fail to say is that there are over: 21.8 million vets in the USA.
      The number of military veterans in the United States in 2010.

      Read more: Veterans Day: Census Facts — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/spot/veteranscensus1.html#ixzz1nSc3Fgh4

      • Jonathan Gartner

        Yes I also have found that to be very strange along with Paul. I have been a trainer in the Military for many years. I still keep in contact with many of my students . They are literally all over the world. And guess what there is no huge military swell for Paul some may vote for him but, the large majority would not making it one more lie that he tells.

        • Sunshine49

          What I have heard and read is that he has more military supporters than the other candidates. Are you saying that is a lie? Do you know EVERYBODY that is in the military?

          Ron Paul is being backed by the average citizen. He is not backed by the big banks like Romney or big business and money like Gingrich. It seems that Santorum is being backed by the far right religious groups. Do you really think that any one of them would be a better president than someone who follows the Constitution?

          What both sides are really afraid of is a Constitutionalist. We are so far away from a Constitutional government that people think you’re a nut case if you believe in what the Constitution really says about how this country should be run.

          I believe in the message that Ron Paul is trying to get out. I don’t hear that from any other candidate so I am left with backing Paul.

          I’m afraid that Obama will get back in because almost 50% of this country is already on the government dole in one way or another. Most of them vote Democrat like the useful idiots they are. They don’t want to lose their socialist “entitlements”.

          In spite of all the hype in 2008, only a third of the country voted. That means that only 15% of the population voted for Obama BEFORE they knew the truth about him. Many will vote for him again just because he’s a Democrat.

          Too many in this country don’t know or care what is going on. They just believe what the media says about Ron Paul.

          Only 14% of our population is black, but 96% of blacks voted for Obama. The media has portrayed Paul as a racist and many people believe that garbage so they won’t vote for him either. It’s a shame that people can’t see through the scam.

          If this isn’t the last days for the world — it’s still going to be the end of the America we once knew and loved. By the time Obama gets done, America will be “changed” forever.

          Too bad that people are so afraid of a Constitutionalist that they will let this last chance for a free America pass them by.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            I am hardly afraid of a Constitutionalist however Paul is not one. He has the wrong revolution the French one. As for the military Officers are required to know what is going on with in their units. I have friend in 15 Forts in the United States. Some in Germany and Europe and in the middle and Far East. As for entitlement receivers many are also seniors and others that will not vote for Obama so the real total is about 30% that are generational recipents that is his base. The last time the Republicans lost because they did not have a conservative running. Paul except for fiscal policy is to the left of Obama. Is Paul a racist I would say yes in that his letters certainly were and it went on for a good number of years making money for him. If it had been only a few and separated by years you could dismiss it but it was not and it bears his name.

    • http://r3voluti0n.com Jason

      Yet we are second (very close on Romney's heals) as far as getting delegates. In case you didn't know, delegates are the way to the nomination, not straw polls. In other words, we are winning!
      http://r3voluti0n.com/2012/our-secret-is-out-ron-…

    • Sunshine49

      What you are saying is that only 3% of the voters in this country believe the government should follow the Constitution.

      That’s sad — very sad!

    • MartinRidens

      Funny, when one bothers to investigate where the campaign funds come from for their particular candidate you would find federal employees supporting Ron Paul much more than any of the other republican candidates. Obama has the big lead here but that is no surprise.

      • Jonathan Gartner

        Not so funny when you realize that his policies are to the left of Obama except fiscally.

        • MartinRidens

          Liar.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            Hardly look up his books you should be able to find them somewhere along with his letters that have his name on them but of course he does not remember. Any time you Paul bots are brought to terms with you leader you get nasty. Its about time you have a dose of the truth if you realize it. Look up Libertarianism and what it espouses Paul himself has stated that he is neither a Republican or a Conservative along with the half truths and full lies about his getting earmarks and then attacking those who do get them.

  • George Tolhurst

    go
    ron
    go and God Bless You

  • John Hand

    OK, since we are talking politics, I just watched a political speech made on a house floor by a REPUBLICAN, that is hilarious. Thought I might share it with you here. Though the title sounds racy, the video is not offensive. Like I said, made on the house floor in Virginia.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/24/david-albo-virginia-lawmaker-no-sex-transvaginal-ultrasound_n_1300404.html?ref=mostpopular

  • Sunshine49

    Many people have been eliminated for going against the Fed. Even Presidents. They would do the same to Ron Paul if he was in a position to stop their takeover of America.

    There is only one who will be able to stop this evil and that is Jesus Christ. I know that a lot of people don’t believe in Revelations anymore, but according to the Bible the world will go under a one world government ruled by Satan before Jesus returns. Thank God it will only be for a short time, but millions will die before it’s over because they refuse to join the Beast.

    According to Jehovah Witnesses, Satan was given dominion over the Earth in 1914. That time was also the start of the Federal Reserve in America and WW I. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

    Will it do any good to fight the evil? The Bible says we should fight against evil when we see it. If for no other reason then it is good for our soul. We may not win this battle, but with God’s help and Jesus as our leader, we will win the war. Then there will be Heaven on Earth. If that isn’t worth fighting for — nothing is!

    There is a method to their madness to destroy the Christian religion in America. It is the only real “hope” for a better existence and peace in the world. If we truly followed Christ’s teachings, we would already have Heaven on Earth.

    Do most Christians follow Christ’s teachings? No! Just like most Americans don’t understand or follow our Constitution. Just because we call ourselves Christians and Americans doesn’t mean we believe in the Bible and the Constitution with our whole heart and soul and act accordingly.

    True Constitutional Americans would have no problem knowing who to vote for — the only candidate who really follows the Constitution. Our country and our Constitution should come first over “social engineering” and lots of promises.

    We are losing our country to the international banking cartel. The world will end up being controlled by the IMF, but that is meant to be. Until the world knows the true meaning of evil, people won’t turn back to God.

    So, as much as I would love to see this country have a Constitutional president like Ron Paul, it will take a miracle for that to happen. We are headed down the road to hell and most people don’t even realize it. Too much, too little, too late!

    • Jonathan Gartner

      Paul is not a true Constitutionalist period. He talks like a fiscal conservative that all libertarians are. However moving on since you want Christianity no problem he would allow them to be over run and Iran to get the bomb. If you remember your bible so well those that help Israel will be blessed. Paul is ignorant period. He has no idea or grasp of reality and it shows in his rants and raves. For example in the last debate he admited that he wanted open borders he hemmed and hawed on it but it came out that he thinks we should not miss out on the labor source the Mexican can provide. The man has been a liar and voted with Barney Frank on several issues would a true Christian do that???

      • Sunshine49

        If you knew your Bible, you would know that Israel will be destroyed by it’s enemies and that Satan will rule from Jerusalem in the last days. Ron Paul is NOT an enemy of Israel. He believes that Israel should be independent from us and has the right to protect itself WITHOUT INTERFERENCE from us or the U.N.

        So, do you think that Obama is a better friend to Israel when he said they should go back to the same borders they had in the 1960s? Obama is all for making Israel a Palestinian State. Is that better than NOT interfering in what they do?

        Ron Paul has said many times that he wants our troops brought home to put on our borders and that he would make our military stronger. Not like Obama who wants to cut 80% of our nukes and the majority of his budget cuts are to our military.

        Ron Paul believes in trading with other countries — NOT supporting their dictators!

        You seemed to have missed the point of my post, which is that our biggest enemy is the Fed along with the international banking cartel that is selling the people down the river. Ron Paul is the only one who tries to fight the Fed and their fiat money supply. As the quote says: We are going to wake up one day and find that we no longer own the country that are fore-bearers died for. The Fed controls the government through the money supply. The Fed is now supplying money to who they want and putting it on our bill WITHOUT any okay from Congress.

        It seems that many people posting here have NO idea what is really going on. Ron Paul wants to stop the socialistic takeover of America and return to a Constitutional government, but it will take a miracle for people to wise up. The MSM is doing their job well of twisting the truth and people posting here are perpetuating the lies.

        This country will be lucky to survive until the next election. Evil’s grand plan for the world is spelled out in the Bible, but people ignore the truth just like they ignore the Constitution. Keep ignoring the truth at your own peril.

        • Jonathan Gartner

          And if you knew your scripture you should read Matt 5: 14 good policy for the United States unlike Pauls amoral stances. Pauls and your Constitution does not include either morals or ethics. But keep up the mantra that Paul is a conservative until they put you to into the nut house

          • MartinRidens

            What exactly do you mean by constantly using the mantra of, "You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden."? Please explain yourself or STFU.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            This was the basis of foreign policy under Ronald Reagan that this country was blessed and that the benefits we received we need to share with the world the blessing of liberty. And for Paul bots like you I would very much like to see you try. My trainers will be there to grade the exercise and take you to the hospital

          • MartinRidens

            So violent, Jonathan. I'm not surprised you would like to beat me up. Very similar to the foreign policy you seem to promote. Here is Reagan's take on that city on a hill thing,

            "…I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it and see it still…."

            I don't think he meant running around the globe forcing our ideas on everyone we do not agree with. We lead by example, not the barrel of a gun. BTW, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near you if you had a gun and knew who I was.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            You are however the one to bring up violence in your STFU which means you like to hit and run to mommy instead of standing up for what you have done and have said. I do not hit and run. If you wish to challenge you will be met in conversation if you wish to brow beat you will be met there to. And yes Ronald Reagan did mean when we could we would address problems around the world. Paul would have us sit on the sidelines much like Obama in Syria. Pauls response to that based on his stances would be "we will not interfere" not very ethical. Reagan would have already taken care of the problem first with talk then when realized that talk will not do anything direct action. And of course you bring in a gun I never said any thing about a weapon. In foreign policy we do need direct action such as in Grenada and other places that are never heard about. I defend I never attack but, I also will not be a sitting target for people like you.

          • MartinRidens

            Seems my comments need to be approved by the site admins.

          • MartinRidens

            You were the one talking about your trainers taking me to the hospital. STFU are just words. Hospitals are real.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            More avoidance. Typical. If you wish to engage fine not a problem however you Paulbots seem not to be able to take the heat when you wish to insult, or threaten. Your arguements are the same way. Watch your mouth where I come from you want to run your mouth fine. If you expect people not to respond to it you are sillier than Paul. As for declaration of war many of you Paulbots have said there has not been a Constitutional war in a long time.even though Congress has approved them including Iraq.

          • MartinRidens

            Are you using Paulbot in a non-insulting manner, is that it Jonathan? Hypocrisy is a sure sign of left-wing indoctrination.

            I find it hard to believe you have read Ron Paul's books if you don't understand the difference between Congress declaring a war and giving tacit approval for a war of aggression already started by an individual who happens to be president. If you don't understand the problems associated with us allowing an individual, who happens to be president, to start wars all by himself then I also find it hard to believe you have any rational understanding of our Constitution.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            And you seem still to have no idea of what is going on. Let me explain it to you. If the President decides that there is national interest to be defended he can act. He has to by a 1973 law in a certain amount of time inform congress exactly what is going on. At that point congress can vote it up down or do nothing. Doing nothing is exceptance with out comment. Up is confirming it and voting it down stops it. You Paulbots still have no idea about the US Constitution concentrate on the French one of the Revolution because Pauls stances mirror it.

          • MartinRidens

            You call yourself a scholar and in typical liberal fashion you seem to think you need to explain things to me. The 1973 law you refer to is the War Powers Resolution and there is plenty of controversy regarding the constitutionality of that law. Every single president since 1973 has declared the law unconstitutional mostly because it places some limits on their power.

            The resolution provides the president can use armed forces abroad without a declaration of war in cases of, "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces." and must inform congress within 48 hours of doing so. We aren't even following the War Powers Resolution when we start wars of aggression.

            I wrote extensively regarding the American and French revolutions in a previous post. There is absolutely no way Ron Paul has anything to do with the French revolution and I would like you to explain yourself and why you make the statements you do. OR, and I WILL say it again, STFU.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            You like Paul still do not understand but, at least it seems you know how to read. Paul an anarchist and amoral in his reading of the Constitution period. His reading would give everyone everything and with no government . A nation is not so much individualism but a gathering of people of like though. Obama would have regulations upon regulation while Paul would have nothing. We tried that to some extent with the articles of Confederations it did not work for lack of a better explanation it had not back bone, not enough structure. And as for you I will say it again put up or shut up. Of course people like you like to wag their tongues and talk nonsense please get an education and take your medication your vision of reality was once real in France they to had a Constitution but, not based on morals or ethics the reason was it was not based on the BIble.

          • MartinRidens

            Again, you give no explanation of how Paul's policies are anything like the French revolution or how his reading of the Constution is amoral or anarchic. Because you can't. Not without exposing your big governemnt / big brother ideology.

            I posted a link to one of your other insane accusations regarding Ron Paul and the French Revolution on another thread. Believe me, I will hound you and post that same link every single time you try and spout this propaganda about Ron Paul being in line with the French revolution.

            You see, Jonathan, I despise propaganda and have fought the left's use of it for years. I absolutely will not sit quiet while supposed conservatives do the same thing.

            And again, I ask you to explain or shut up and you tell me to make you shut up or fight. There is a difference there Jonathan whether you want to realize it or not. Then you try to belittle me and ask me to take my medication. You will not intimidate me and I will not go away.

          • MartinRidens

            Ron Paul said on the floor of the House in 1983 that anyone trying to claim Grenada was not a threat would be wrong. And, there were lots of people claiming that at the time. All Ron Paul has ever asked for is a declaration of war from our Congress. Once a war gets declared Ron Paul would be the most determined man alive to win that war decisively and then bring our troops home.

    • Juan

      What an idiocy…..Ron Paul is the farthest thing from a conservative,ypu talk as if he was in the mold of our Founding Fathers which he is not,they would think of him as a charlatan,and I would agree,he is NUTS,loco,Pazzo.crazy.

  • Jonathan Gartner

    First of all prison planet is hardly note worthy in telling the truth. To bad VA allowed them in. Paul is the closest thing we have right now to Obama except for one thing that he fiscally conservative. Beyond that he is willing to give you anything that you want your heart desires no rules just dont hurt anybody or want any thing from the state. This moron is like a Man telling a child to go into a candy store and eat all they want but, dont complain to him when they get sick eating it.

    • Punchy

      Hey Jonathan, what’s wrong with letting the kid eat as much candy as he wants. The little bonehead would get sick and not do it again. That my bloodthirsty bucko is common sense. Maybe your momma never did anything like that to you, just kept you safe and sound from all the temptations in life. How sweet.

      • Jonathan Gartner

        Hardly however when dealing with morons such as yourself it is easier to explain. The Federal Government under the general welfare rule is right in not allowing such things. Libertarians would of course along with everything it brings in. Paul belongs to the French Revolution chaos and anarchy . It is a parents job to protect a child and teach them right and wrong so they teach their children something that your parents must have forgotten to do. My parents taught me right from wrong so the temptations do not tempt me unlike libertarians whose very ethics and morals must be questioned for it seems they will allow anything.

  • Juan

    Any serious,sane person knows thAt Ron Paul is nuts,hell woul freeze over before he is elected to any national office,if he is chosen as VP he will sink the ticket,he passes himself as conservative,he is not,he is short of a fry to be a happy meal nuts…. he is unelectable period.

    • Punchy

      Hey Juan, Did hell freeze over? Ron Paul has aready been elected, many times as a US Representative.

    • Jonathan Gartner

      I agree with some others here. You can tell the Paulbots as irrational as he is. Good luck there are lot of uneducated Paulbots about here and elsewhere

  • Sunshine49

    Many people have been eliminated for going against the Fed. Even Presidents. They would do the same to Ron Paul if he was in a position to stop their takeover of America.

    There is only one who will be able to stop this evil and that is Jesus Christ. I know that a lot of people don’t believe in Revelations anymore, but according to the Bible the world will go under a one world government ruled by Satan before Jesus returns. Thank God it will only be for a short time, but millions will die before it’s over because they refuse to join the Beast.

    According to Jehovah Witnesses, Satan was given dominion over the Earth in 1914. That time was also the start of the Federal Reserve in America and WW I. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

    Will it do any good to fight the evil? The Bible says we should fight against evil when we see it. If for no other reason then it is good for our soul. We may not win this battle, but with God’s help and Jesus as our leader, we will win the war. Then there will be Heaven on Earth. If that isn’t worth fighting for — nothing is!

    There is a method to their madness to destroy the Christian religion in America. It is the only real “hope” for a better existence and peace in the world. If we truly followed Christ’s teachings, we would already have Heaven on Earth.

    Do most Christians follow Christ’s teachings? No! Just like most Americans don’t understand or follow our Constitution. Just because we call ourselves Christians and Americans doesn’t mean we believe in the Bible and the Constitution with our whole heart and soul and act accordingly.

    True Constitutional Americans would have no problem knowing who to vote for — the only candidate who really follows the Constitution. Our country and our Constitution should come first over “social engineering” and lots of promises.

    We are losing our country to the international banking cartel. The world will end up being controlled by the IMF, but that is meant to be. Until the world knows the true meaning of evil, people won’t turn back to God.

    So, as much as I would love to see this country have a Constitutional president like Ron Paul, it will take a miracle for that to happen. We are headed down the road to hell and most people don’t even realize it. Too much, too little, too late!

    • Jonathan Gartner

      FIrst prison planet now JWs Christ was not an Angel he was the Son of God perfect begotten not made. Obviously you use some very strange sources to research. Since you probably dont believe the God died for you you will be seeing the nether regions your self first hand

  • Guito

    I have never seen so many idiots as I have seen in these comments. Espousing stuff about Ron Paul from debates and taking the talking points of the left and establishment Republicans and running wild as fact about paul’s conservative credentials. I played a little trick on some people from my Tea Party group. I took just the candidates voting records with no name for each voting record and told them to go through and put a plus beside the votes they agreed with and a minus beside the ones they didn’t agree with and add them up as plus for pros and negatives for cons, to see who they most agreed with and in the end I would reveal the candidate that belonged to which voting record. All of them picked Ron Paul in a room of more than 50 people and the majority of them had their heart set on another candidate. That was an eye opener for a whole lot of people that said they would only pick candidates that would defend the constitution and believed in smaller government. VOTING RECORDS DON’T LIE PEOPLE!!!! DON’T BE A USEFUL IDIOT!!!!!

    • Jonathan Gartner

      Did you give a time period or what was entirely in the bills???? I did not think so. Paul has voted with the far left many times including Barney Frank. In the end the poly sci axiom Liars can tell facts and fact can lie just like Paul. You ask how?? He attacks Santorum for taking earmarks while raking them in from bills he put them in and then voted against . He admitted as much in the last debate

  • http://www.filedby.com/author/michael_ledo/2426094/ mikeledo

    I question some of the savings. The DOE oversees numerous facilities around the nation. Eliminating the DOE won't eliminate the government oversight. The same people would end up doing it, just working for a different organization, like the DOD or NRC. Since candidates who claim they want to eliminate the DOE never give out the details of their plan, it is hard to grasp the savings. The question we should be asking RonPaul is who is going to do their needed job now. Politicians don't think, they just toss out red meat to ignorant voters.

    • Jonathan Gartner

      If Paul was a true Constitutionalist this is a easy question. First of all because of the need for a standard Federal Government would make it for safety so every body is on the same page of music. The states would enforce and observe the law. The law would come from the legislature with as little hidden regulation as possible and the DOE would be gone taken over by the States who should limit the number of people involved and regulations. Hence the DOE along with other agencies would be taken over by the states and since it is closer to the people they will hopefully have more control

  • pierce

    If that is true, and I truly believe it. But he will do more harm than good with his attitude towards the rest of the world. In stead of being a leader of the free world, we will become an isolationist nation, hated by one and all. Is that what we want?

    • MartinRidens

      We lead by example not by the barrel of a gun.

  • mikeaustin

    As usual, the author of the article has it wrong. Without a Senate or Congress to back up the President, it does not matter what they say. Ron Paul has the right idea on the Fed but other than that, a single minded kook. Only if he would cut ALL gov't entitlement programs 10%/yr, until they are gone, would I vote for him. But as soon as we are attacked by some other terrorist country, he will need to off himself for his ignorant foreign policy.

    • Jonathan Gartner

      First of all its prison planet always make sure you know whose articles you are reading even here. He would cut Seniors, Vets and the truly disabled. Because it is not in the Constitution. The Constitution has morals and ethics and common sense all of these Paul is lacking.

      • Punchy

        Jonathan, my trigger happy lunatic, the Constitution does not have morals, the people who wrote it did. They believed that a moral people could govern themselves. I for one have not given up on the idea that America is full of moral people capable of governing themselves, however, if they do not stand up and get involved we will soon lose our freedom and our nation.

        • Jonathan Gartner

          Incorrect the Constitution being based on the Bible is by nature a moral and ethical document if you read it with that in mind. Paul however does not in this he is amoral in his reading as Obama is immoral and unethical. As for being a lunatic that is untrue but, knowing the attacking nature of Paulbots when faced with logic and truth not unexpected.

  • georgev

    All you Romney, Newt and Santorum followers will regret the day that you voted for these globalist. They all just more of the same. Big goverment spending, larger governments, more wars and killing of the innocent and more government involvement in your lives.

    Wake up you idiots!!!

    Realize we cannot afford the wars, our rights are being taken away from us, this country has been taken over by corporations and they are dictating what these guys are going to do. Do you even know what this is called.

    Fascism.

    You want more go ahead and vote these guys in.

    But when you are being searched by the TSA goons and when you no longer can make your own decisions about your health and when your children are indoctrinated to serve the government before your family values then you’ll realize what you have done and will regret it whole heartedly.

    Wake up before it’s too late.

    Get back to the basics of what this country was made of.

    • just another patriot

      amen to you georgev!

  • Doc Hern

    Anyone that speaks poorly about Dr. Ron Paul obviously depends on the news or print for their facts. Research his history and compare. He is our ONLY chance to take our country back. "We The People"…..God Bless The U.S.A.

    • Jonathan Gartner

      I have watched him for about 30 years his rants and raves have not gotten better over the years. I use source documents for decision making and his libertarian books are just as nuts as he is and his policies expect for fiscally he is to the left of Obama

    • Punchy

      Right on Doc, It’s sad to think there are so many folks out there that are perfectly willing to settle for someone that will do nothing different than what we have.

      • Jonathan Gartner

        Well voting for Paul will in the end get you to the same place Obama is driving. Obama and his marxism is very simular in the end to Pauls libertarianism. One would give you nothing the other would give you everything both are a null path. Santorum or Newt are different from both Paul and Obama. Newt is because he has herded cats and made a difference Paul has never in 23+ years and 600+ bills passed anything of importance. He needs to work with people in congress something he has not done. Santorum is different in that he is willing to take a moral and ethical stance something that Paul lacks

  • PaulBot

    As for me and my household, 4 to vote, It’s Paul all the way. As to me extended family, 8 to vote for Paul. Sorry to all you Constitutional, Freedom loving, haters. With Gods grace he will be Mr. President in 2012 and I will be very Happy once again.

    • Jonathan Gartner

      With Gods grace he will never see Washington DC again. He is not running for congress again and his being President has the same odds as me beaming up to the Enterprise. Sorry you might want to take the course that is being held for free you will change your mind about Paul after reading his letters and books.

  • Joby

    Ron paul continued, watch the clip on youtube sometime. He said,”we need to take away the incentives that make them want to come here illegally in the first place. They make it here and get free everything. He said it was the job of the federal government to protect us from invasion. Here we are spending our resources guarding the boarder of afghan while we ourselves are being invaded. I can’t believe you guys couldn’t pick up what dr paul was laying Down. Lay off the flouride guys

    • Punchy

      Great comment Joby, JG and a few others here are so hell-bent on killing every muslim in every country under the sun that they have lost sight of protecting America and her people right here.

      • Jonathan Gartner

        Moron the muslims are ready killing people here if you had not noticed. Muslims by their very nature must do so and have done so for centuries. As for taking away the incentives??? you mean clean water safe streets you like Paul are still in la la land

  • Bett

    True, Obama's aunt asked to leave 2x, by Immigration & why not shipped out? President pulls strings so she is collecting $700/mo. SS she didn't pay in & yet allowed to collect, subsidized housing in Boston (?food stamps, medicare) And when asked if she thinks fair, she says it's 'God's Country' and a miracle she deserves! IMMIGRATION could have put her on plane & saved us on ONE person using the system over $15k/yr. Now O passes the Dream Act to legalize them if they join military or college, (another EXECUTIVE order) RON says he will reverse ALL Exec. orders, goodbye Patriot Act! & Goodbye FED, DOE, EPA and most important the UN as we are under UN Agenda 21 for them to takeover as the Constitution is being ignored so an easy takeover into the EU. Vote Ron for his consistent character voting to defend the Constitution. God is giving us one last chance w/HIM! This will be the last President if he is not elected as the others are politicians w/o taking Oath serious or our Sovereignty.

  • Mark in LA

    The constant lies by the Paul haters will only guarantee an Obama win. These Republican idiots think they can mischaracterize Paul, lie about him, and call his supporters nuts. Then they cry that we are "RINOS' when we say we aren't going to vote for anybody but Paul as though they are somehow making some point. I was never a Republican though I am a conservative and sometimes was fooled into voting for a Republican. They don't own my vote.

    • Jonathan Gartner

      Thats fine. By only voting for Paul you will reelect Obama. Pauls libertarianism is as far to the left as Obama's marxism. That is the truth ask any poly sci professor. And you are not RINOS just as nutty as Paul is. The only difference is that one day you might wake up its far to late for Ron.

      • KH

        If you’re listening to poly sci professors you have a bigger problem than just figuring out who to vote for. You are one of the minds of mush.

        • Jonathan Gartner

          This was many years ago. Then I taught in the military. Two people can win this and their names are not Romney or Paul. And as for minds of mush yours and Pauls are of the same consistency that of whirled peas

  • Clarence

    We desire freedom to pursue our happiness but like to deny others the freedom to pursue theirs. To avoid conflict and pursue peace we must agree that we each have the freedom to pursue our happiness in such a way as not to infringe on each others rights. Ron Paul understands this and this is why he is despised by those who seek to control.

  • Jonathan Gartner

    Paul really understands very little about government except to read pieces of the Constitution. He has served 23+ years and 600+ bills and nothing . The Presidency has to work with congress something that Paul really has never done. And do not give the "neocon" conspiracy garbage just another excuse used by Paulbots. He has voted with people like Barney Frank need I say more.

    • Punchy

      Give it up JG, we “paulbots” are multiplying.

      • Jonathan Gartner

        Actually not. And after Paul loses Texas I will be laugh my aii off.

  • KH

    Always amazes me how many so called republican “conservatives” will vote for one of the 3 stooges, Gingrich, Santorum, Romney no matter their big government voting and spending record but criticize Ron Paul’s foreign policy. In the same breath you so called “conservatives” gripe about government invading your lives but you won’t want anybody touching your social security and you don’t mind the Federal Reserve counterfeiting money to increase spending for the military by 90% from 2001 levels.

    You people are frauds. You’re not really conservatives. You only taut “conservative” values when it’s convenient. You don’t mind trampling the Constitution if the end justifies the means. Oh ye hypocrites.

    • Jonathan Gartner

      Hardly however, the insults of the Paulbot are expected along with the insanity. The spending of the Military has not gone up 90% of course lies are the bread an butter of libertarians the truth of what Paul stands for would drive every one off of course except Obama of course who would say "brother

  • mark

    ron paul if elected it won't happen why ron paul would mean ovomit gets 4 more years and we the people cannot take another 4 more years of ovomit it would mean bye-bye country. and hello to a third world country all your rights and freedoms gone.

  • johnjohn

    who would want a fish out of water??? Paul is the only one who has not flipped and flopped around like a fish on the river bank.

    at least he has his mind on the Constitution like we all need to. live life free or be a slave, its your choice. I plan on being free with my family, with my Bible in one hand and a gun in the other.

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